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We Need Outside Interests that Consume Us

Startup Therapy Podcast

The "No BS" version of how startups are really built, taught by actual startup Founders who have lived through all of it.


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Wil Schroter

Founder + CEO, Startups.com

Wil is a serial Founder having launched 9 companies over 25+ years, 3 being venture funded and 4 having been sold. He generally argues that Founders need to take a much different view of how to build startups.

Ryan Rutan

Founding Partner + CMO, Startups.com

Ryan is a serial founder with 5 companies spanning 3 continents, 20 years and 2 exits. He generally argues with Wil.


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Episode 292

April 14, 2025

If You're Not Terrified, You're Doing it Wrong

Fear’s always in the room when you’re building something that matters. The key is figuring out how to stop avoiding it and start using it as fuel.